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[转贴]天边一片云--蔡明亮

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发表于 2005-7-9 18:29:36 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
The Wayward Cloud, 20 March 2005
9/10
Author: Erick-12 from Taipei

The English title is given as \"The Wayward Cloud\". I saw this film in Taipei where the director, Tsai Ming-liang, stopped in for a surprise speech before the show. (Wouldn't it be great to meet the director before every film instead of sitting through the assault of those damned previews, previews evidently aimed at folks who are deaf and dumb?)

He spoke informally for a few minutes just to assure the audience that he intends the film to have _redeeming social values_ -- as US lawmakers used to say. This seems necessary because the government in Taiwan spent 2 weeks meeting with consultants to decide whether or not to censor the film. They let it show uncut.

That is to say, don't bring your kids to see this -- but adults will be able to see that it is not porn, but rather a critique of porn. This is a simplification, since the main theme of the film is general alienation. The wayward cloud and the drought in the film are shown to be symbolic of the emotional and interpersonal \"drifting\" and \"dryness\" that each scene highlights. The film shows how porn is merely one symptom of people's awkward attempt to connect with each other on a deeper level.

The film is unusual in style, (see previous user comment) so don't expect it to imitate Hollywood conventions. It is recognizably in Tsai Ming-liang's previous grim and dim style (i.e., \"The Hole\" and \"The River\" and \"What Time Is It There?\") but here he adds a lighter note of wit to that.

Personally I don't enjoy musicals, but the handful of musical interludes in this film are delightfully surreal and humorous, and while they address heterosexuality, the aesthetic is gay in both senses of the term. I especially liked one of these, where a smiling state statue of historical dictator Chiang Kai-shek is the central prop for a tongue-in-cheek erotic song & dance troupe of lovely ladies. Also the music in itself is attractive since we don't usually get to hear those old songs from Shanghai in the '30s and Hong Kong in the '60s.

The final scene officially raises the bar for the visionary use of a sex scene to reflect on alienation. Those who remember the historic shock of \"Last Tango in Paris\" (Bertolucci's \"Ultimo tango a Parigi\") so many years ago will see what I mean by raising the bar. It will make its own peculiar mark in underground film histories.


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还没有看这个片子,看过他的河流,感觉不是一般的闷。。。
评论他的片子的时候很多人都把alienation作为一个核心词
也许精妙之处就在疏离的不只是角色,还有电影和观众:)
看完再说
发表于 2005-7-9 19:21:59 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵,昨晚刚下载了~~

看了10来分钟,开头真是爽啊:)

害得我都不敢放大声,如果要表现一个主题,非要用情欲么?
发表于 2005-7-9 20:18:39 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用fee于2005-07-09 19:21发表的:
呵呵,昨晚刚下载了~~

看了10来分钟,开头真是爽啊:)

害得我都不敢放大声,如果要表现一个主题,非要用情欲么?
你是听我介绍的吧??
发表于 2005-7-9 20:19:29 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用fee于2005-07-09 19:21发表的:
呵呵,昨晚刚下载了~~

看了10来分钟,开头真是爽啊:)

害得我都不敢放大声,如果要表现一个主题,非要用情欲么?
开头10分钟其实没什么,最后的高潮才经典!
发表于 2005-7-9 21:29:19 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用麓山水王于2005-07-09 20:18发表的:

你是听我介绍的吧??

nod,最近一直没怎么去了解片片信息:)

以后看片就问你了~

现在为止只看了20来分钟,因为下载完就很晚了;

等下回去看看
发表于 2005-7-9 21:58:55 | 显示全部楼层
下面是引用麓山水王于2005-07-09 20:19发表的:

开头10分钟其实没什么,最后的高潮才经典!

你又看这种片子,哼,不理你了
 楼主| 发表于 2005-7-10 03:55:23 | 显示全部楼层
还是闷,不过比起河流来说,这个特点已经极大地削弱了
刚看到第一个场景的时候我就肯定地猜测这个镜头可能要持续十分钟
每一个导演都会培养观众的一种观影习惯
也许是蔡明亮向观众妥协了吧,这个镜头只有一分钟
片中每过一段都会有插科打诨的歌舞,民国大总统居然也友情客串了一把(建议以后大家要拍什么东西直接去东方红拍,后果自负)
我不喜欢随便给电影扣个大帽子
有人说禅意,哪来的禅呢?是因为蔡刚刚皈依?
世俗,不能再世俗,与禅差之十万八千里,The Big Blue里面才有那么一点禅的气息
或者像上面那篇提到的alienation
可是台词的缺失只是使情节变得更加不可捉摸
有人说中国电影在西方获奖要么就是政治要么就是色情
但是在我看来,蔡的片子肯定没有去迎合后殖民视角
不像那些恶心的大陆独立电影导演
电影应该是什么样的,导演就应该把它拍成什么样的
色情吗?
也许是吧,蔡从日本请来AV女优出演就是一个证据了
可是情节的需要存在了,角色的难度太大,所以找本色演员来演不是很好的办法吗?

总结一下:
闷!如果要看蔡的电影,你就得先接受这样一个约定,我也不喜欢这种沉闷,但是导演有他的风格,拍得不闷也就不是他了。
爱情,这就是电影的主题,就像三池崇史的<来访者Q>,又是导演的一个阴谋,他会积蓄所有的力量在最后暴发出来,冲击着观影者的情感和心灵。很少有电影能让我感到震惊,但是这两部电影却出人意料地最终让我感动了。

我相信,只要不是道貌岸然的伪君子或满脸清纯的小女生
就总能从这部电影里找到心灵的震颤
如果你还曾深深地体味过爱情的狂喜与痛苦
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